however, ann coulter, even ann coulter has called the birthers, quote, cranks, and if an editorial in the national review calls birthers' claims foolishness. we will talk with the attorney behind the birther movement shortly. we're hoping to get her to the microphone and in front, david, to be able to talk with her. in the meantime, we're also talking about the obama administration and they're reportedly looking at prisons within the united states to relocate some of the terror suspects. joining us from capitol hill is kansas republican senator pat roberts. with he know you're here to discuss this, and we want to talk about these 229 terror suspects and whether they will end up in prison in the united states, but i want to get your reaction quickly to talk that these birthers are hurting the republican party. what's your reaction to this birth movement and i guess the fascination, not just the media, but people in general are having about the folks who choose to deny that barack obama with proof was born in hawaii? >> i don't know how many of the so-called birthers, i have never met a